# Sandbox must do development outside the game **URL:** \ **Category:** đź’¬ General\ **Created:** [31 July 2025 16:56 UTC](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/t/sandbox-must-do-development-outside-the-game/2969 "2025-07-31T16:56:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Polka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.sandboxdao.com/polka/32/2408_2.png) [@Polka](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/u/Polka)\ **Post date:** [31 July 2025 16:56 UTC](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/t/sandbox-must-do-development-outside-the-game/2969/1 "2025-07-31T16:56:33Z")
hello last time i was here was during as4,I would like to give some suggestions to the **sandbox** , but I don’t have the ability to give any **proposals** so I will just give some suggestions here. **1.Sandbox needs innovation outside the game** In my opinion, Sandbox has made many upgrades to the game, even the plan to bring it to the mobile market is very close.but on the **cryptocurrency** side itself there is no development I could say the gaming side is very advanced, the **cryptocurrency** side is not,I know the sandbox focuses on the game itself, but since you brought the **P2E** and **gamefi** concepts, I don’t think it’s good if it’s not accompanied by developments regarding the **$SAND** token. Plus, many crypto tokens are emerging, and of course, there are many competitors in the **GameFi** sector. In my opinion, if the sandbox doesn’t develop its cryptocurrency side, sooner or later, **$SAND** will lose its share of the **GameFi** sector. Because in the end, people are interested if the token price is good, and the game is good. If one of these is not fulfilled, I don’t think people will be interested. **2.My advice?** \*not someone who really understands the field of cryptocurrency - As far as I know, **Sand** has had dealings with the **SEC** , which resulted in people from the US not being able to **stake**.I don’t know about the update, but if it’s not yet available, while President **Trump** is on good terms with crypto, how about you guys fix that problem? It would be great if the problem with the **SEC** could be resolved before **Trump’s** term ends. - Creating your own chain, Creating **SandChain** would be great. So far, **sand** is on the **polygon** and **ethereum** networks, maybe adding **solana** and **ronin** would be great . but it would be cooler if **sand** had its own network, besides saving fees and fees from users it could be used for other things. I think if that happens many new things can be done, and of course it will attract people’s interest - From **SandChain** , maybe **GameFi** will be born that uses **SandChain** as their network, it’s like **ronin** , they were successful, and of course if **sandbox** wants to target something similar, then the popularity will increase greatly I can see it if that happens - From **sandchain** , a new ecosystem will be formed, such as opensea/magiceden/mavismarket will create a **sand** version, of course functions such as **avatars** , **land** , and **other** things are done here. Efficiency is more interesting if you have that. - and other things, such as **SandStablecoin** , partnering with several **companies** , collaborating in several **countries** In my opinion, the **sandbox doesn’t need** to invite many **artists** ,or take part in or hold many **exhibitions** , not saying that’s bad. But it would be better to use it for something long-term, rather than something that’s just a temporary. **3.conclusion** I’m basically just a **GameFi** enthusiast, even though I’ve retired, but I still hold $ **SAND** tokens to this day. I’m eager to see **THE** **SANDBOX** grow, not just in terms of **gaming** , but also in **$SAND** itself. I’d be sad if **Sand** lost its popularity, considering the **metaverse** hype is long over. _ **“The party’s over, but if there’s still a desire to rise, I think there is.”** _ That’s all. ---
**Author:** ![theKuntaMC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.sandboxdao.com/thekuntamc/32/1214_2.png) [@theKuntaMC](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/u/theKuntaMC)\ **Post date:** [31 July 2025 17:06 UTC](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/t/sandbox-must-do-development-outside-the-game/2969/2 "2025-07-31T17:06:51Z")
Thanks for the post, @Polka! Your views and opinions always have a home here with the DAO. Any thoughts from our community, [@domainallocators](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/groups/domainallocators), or [@Delegates](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/groups/delegates) about this? As a US citizen, I cannot tell ya how badly I would love to my staking rewards, lol… that is indeed something a SIP could be advanced about if the community wants to press the matter. Ultimately, it becomes a legal decision, though. As for other suggestions to emphasize SAND, like SandChain and StableSand, I’d love to hear what others have to say! ---
**Author:** ![Biversen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.sandboxdao.com/biversen/32/616_2.png) [@Biversen](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/u/Biversen)\ **Post date:** [31 July 2025 18:30 UTC](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/t/sandbox-must-do-development-outside-the-game/2969/3 "2025-07-31T18:30:49Z")
Sandchain will do nothing for TSB. There are already many networks on the market and most of them, except for the successful ones, only end in death. Staking is not a system that will save TSB. If you don’t have a Proof of Stake blockchain network like Avax, which is active and has many projects on it, staking will only cost you money. If the usefulness of the token is not increased, it will only end in death, whether in your own network or in Staking. The current ecosystem is good, but the NFT market has lost its appeal as the market is dead and plots are not available to investors other than Creators. Sand Token has no real-world usability. It’s too late for mobile devices and even if it gets into mobile devices, I think it’s debatable how many users it will attract. In short, Sand Token is currently not very functional except for trade transactions and reward distribution. If the usage does not increase in the entire ecosystem, all that will be done will only be a temporary bandage on the wound. ---
**Author:** ![Lanzer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.sandboxdao.com/lanzer/32/220_2.png) [@Lanzer](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/u/Lanzer)\ **Post date:** [31 July 2025 21:51 UTC](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/t/sandbox-must-do-development-outside-the-game/2969/4 "2025-07-31T21:51:58Z")
> [@Polka](#): > > As far as I know, **Sand** has had dealings with the **SEC** , which resulted in people from the US not being able to **stake**.I don’t know about the update, but if it’s not yet available, while President **Trump** is on good terms with crypto, how about you guys fix that problem? That is a great point. Something we should bring up to Seb, Matheu, or BellByche. Those conditions that led TSB to close off the website staking to US users is no longer relevant. ---
**Author:** ![hishmad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.sandboxdao.com/hishmad/32/3777_2.png) [@hishmad](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/u/hishmad)\ **Post date:** [31 July 2025 23:10 UTC](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/t/sandbox-must-do-development-outside-the-game/2969/5 "2025-07-31T23:10:45Z")
I truly appreciate the thought and effort you put into this proposal; it presents a very compelling vision. While the idea itself is strong, bringing it to fruition would involve an extensive amount of work and logistical challenges. ---
**Author:** ![Polka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.sandboxdao.com/polka/32/2408_2.png) [@Polka](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/u/Polka)\ **Post date:** [1 August 2025 02:30 UTC](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/t/sandbox-must-do-development-outside-the-game/2969/6 "2025-08-01T02:30:56Z")
It’s true that SEC is currently led by a crypto-friendly individual. They’ve dropped many lawsuits against exchanges and other crypto tokens. Seeing that, I don’t think it’s impossible that the lawsuit against $sand will also end. Moreover, they’re currently developing a framework for crypto; it would be very good for sand if the lawsuits were over. I certainly hope that my points can be conveyed to Sebastien, as you have better access than I do to convey this. ---
**Author:** ![Polka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.sandboxdao.com/polka/32/2408_2.png) [@Polka](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/u/Polka)\ **Post date:** [1 August 2025 02:36 UTC](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/t/sandbox-must-do-development-outside-the-game/2969/7 "2025-08-01T02:36:54Z")
It’s true that I feel that many of the points I’ve conveyed are quite difficult to implement. It will require a lot of resources, but I believe that “ **investing** ” in some of the points I’ve conveyed can have a positive impact on $sand. ---
**Author:** ![Polka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.sandboxdao.com/polka/32/2408_2.png) [@Polka](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/u/Polka)\ **Post date:** [1 August 2025 02:59 UTC](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/t/sandbox-must-do-development-outside-the-game/2969/8 "2025-08-01T02:59:42Z")
Thank you very much for your suggestion. Yes, there are many, but besides Ronin, no other gamefi project has its own network. This requires significant resources, and there might be some gambling involved. The effect will be good, but otherwise, it will be useless. I personally don’t really understand staking. And for mobile games, I don’t know the updates yet. Basically, I want Sand to have utilities or an ecosystem built around its network like Ronin. Of course, it’s impossible to make Sand RWA, but it goes back to the beginning. Sand needs an upgrade. It can’t rely on game rewards, buying and selling land, and other assets. It needs something that will give Sand stable performance in the game or in terms of currency. ---
**Author:** ![gawiz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.sandboxdao.com/gawiz/32/2112_2.png) [@gawiz](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/u/gawiz)\ **Post date:** [1 August 2025 03:49 UTC](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/t/sandbox-must-do-development-outside-the-game/2969/9 "2025-08-01T03:49:37Z")
Very fair analysis of the ecosystem. I have myself been thinking about expanding the use case for SAND especially through third party chain integrations. Creating our own chain will be an expensive affair not just from a dev stand point but also operations standpoint. We will have to get in studios to build games on top of the chain. I am an investor in GALA and they have not done well. And I dont know how much work is TSB willing to take up given they already have a lot on their plate. Nonetheless, SAND token has failed to pick up steam even in the current bull run which is a clear indication that more needs to be done. ---
**Author:** ![shont](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.sandboxdao.com/shont/32/1242_2.png) [@shont](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/u/shont)\ **Post date:** [1 August 2025 06:43 UTC](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/t/sandbox-must-do-development-outside-the-game/2969/10 "2025-08-01T06:43:49Z")
It seems that Animoca has already revealed plans to utilize user data through the Mocaverse chain. Because of this, I personally feel that instead of launching a separate “SandChain,” The Sandbox will likely operate within the **MocaChain ecosystem**. There’s a bit of concern here, as it suggests a shift away from a fully independent infrastructure. Rather than building a new chain, I believe **expanding beyond Polygon to another network should be a more urgent priority** at this point. In my opinion, **Linea is currently the most well-prepared L2 within the Ethereum community**. With its strong technical foundation and deep integration with Ethereum’s ecosystem, I believe Linea should be the top candidate for The Sandbox to consider for future expansion. ---
**Author:** ![DAO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.sandboxdao.com/dao/32/144_2.png) [@DAO](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/u/DAO)\ **Post date:** [2 August 2025 14:30 UTC](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/t/sandbox-must-do-development-outside-the-game/2969/11 "2025-08-02T14:30:42Z")
FYI BellByche has left TSB. There’s a new LAND director, can’t recall his name but I believe he used to be in charge of Avatars. SAND is used as an in game currency. Unfortunately, that requires a vibrant in-game economy for the value of SAND to go up. Recently, with OS2’s upgrade, native currencies like SAND were dropped, so all transactions happen only with ETH. The only way I foresee giving SAND more utility and thereby increasing its value, is boosting TSB’s creator economy, and having our own marketplace that allows all trading to occur, much like how Robux works for Roblox ---
**Author:** ![sebga](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.sandboxdao.com/sebga/32/51_2.png) [@sebga](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/u/sebga)\ **Post date:** [3 August 2025 16:30 UTC](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/t/sandbox-must-do-development-outside-the-game/2969/12 "2025-08-03T16:30:29Z")
I’m not sure having a Sandchain is a good idea, but the topic is definitely interesting. Regarding the Animoca chain mentioned by Shont, I don’t know if there’s a planned teleportation, but personally, I wouldn’t like that. I have to admit, I’m not a big fan of the economic model that most of Animoca’s “partners” or subsidiaries implement. I don’t know if it’s a common factor that pushes them in that direction, but so far I think Sandbox is doing quite well and differently. So I believe we should try to remain as autonomous as possible — and definitely avoid centralization. After all, that’s the original deal, right? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![WakeUpLabs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.sandboxdao.com/wakeuplabs/32/1237_2.png) [@WakeUpLabs](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/u/WakeUpLabs)\ **Post date:** [6 August 2025 18:16 UTC](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/t/sandbox-must-do-development-outside-the-game/2969/13 "2025-08-06T18:16:55Z")
Thanks @Polka for your input. We believe you hit the mark with: > [@Polka](#): > > 1.Sandbox needs innovation outside the game Through the DAO and with support from the community, it’s very likely that new mechanisms and games can be developed to strengthen the ecosystem, but by following a path different from the one currently set by the platform. We’re not sure how, what, or when, but there’s definitely something. ---
**Author:** ![cryptodiplo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.sandboxdao.com/cryptodiplo/32/279_2.png) [@cryptodiplo](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/u/cryptodiplo)\ **Post date:** [15 August 2025 18:50 UTC](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/t/sandbox-must-do-development-outside-the-game/2969/14 "2025-08-15T18:50:05Z")
@Polka This is exactly my vision for the Sandbox. Unfortunately we need them to build an API first, so we can have in game data. That has been my primary focus as a delegate, and I will continue pushing until we have it. Once the API exists we will be able to start funding way more interesting projects with the DAO including GameFi. ---
**Author:** ![theKuntaMC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.sandboxdao.com/thekuntamc/32/1214_2.png) [@theKuntaMC](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/u/theKuntaMC)\ **Post date:** [15 August 2025 19:21 UTC](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/t/sandbox-must-do-development-outside-the-game/2969/15 "2025-08-15T19:21:24Z")
For reference, @Polka… Regarding @cryptodiplo’s comment above… Here is the relevant SIP Idea (currently in admin review as we communicate with TSB directly about feasibility): [Sandbox API Asks](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/t/sandbox-api-asks/2069) ---
**Author:** ![Polka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.sandboxdao.com/polka/32/2408_2.png) [@Polka](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/u/Polka)\ **Post date:** [16 August 2025 15:16 UTC](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/t/sandbox-must-do-development-outside-the-game/2969/16 "2025-08-16T15:16:44Z")
If I think about it, it’s very expensive to make a new chain, and the results are 50/50. But the point of my post is that I really want sand to have more utility so that it can be better from a currency perspective. ---
**Author:** ![Polka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.sandboxdao.com/polka/32/2408_2.png) [@Polka](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/u/Polka)\ **Post date:** [16 August 2025 15:17 UTC](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/t/sandbox-must-do-development-outside-the-game/2969/17 "2025-08-16T15:17:21Z")
I just found out that Sandbox is an Animoca product. I thought Animoca was just an investor. So, that’s why I’ve been seeing Animoca posts on Twitter about Sand, Edu, and Moca for the past few days. What could that be? ---
**Author:** ![Polka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.sandboxdao.com/polka/32/2408_2.png) [@Polka](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/u/Polka)\ **Post date:** [16 August 2025 15:18 UTC](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/t/sandbox-must-do-development-outside-the-game/2969/18 "2025-08-16T15:18:31Z")
I just found out that OpenSea does that. Honestly, it’s more fun to use currencies like Sand and Polygon on OpenSea than ETH. Maybe if they used L2, it would be a bit better. Buying a Thunderbird avatar on ETH L1 for $20 and a fee of around $10 in 2023 was quite wasteful. Basically, I want Sand to have more uses than it does now,several options are open to it ---
**Author:** ![Polka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.sandboxdao.com/polka/32/2408_2.png) [@Polka](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/u/Polka)\ **Post date:** [16 August 2025 15:18 UTC](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/t/sandbox-must-do-development-outside-the-game/2969/19 "2025-08-16T15:18:50Z")
Regarding that, like Shont’s comment, I just found out that Sand is an Animoca product. I thought it was just an investor. I prefer the current one, although I feel that the currency, $Sand, isn’t that good for a game-fi platform like Sandbox. But if Animoca’s plan is to create an ecosystem or whatever, as Animoca has been posting a lot lately, I don’t really know what the positive and negative impacts are. ---
**Author:** ![Polka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forum.sandboxdao.com/polka/32/2408_2.png) [@Polka](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/u/Polka)\ **Post date:** [16 August 2025 15:19 UTC](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/t/sandbox-must-do-development-outside-the-game/2969/20 "2025-08-16T15:19:06Z")
I admit I’m actually confused about where to provide feedback on this. On Twitter, tagging several people like Sebs, I feel my presentation isn’t engaging enough. And on this platform, I haven’t found (correct me if I’m wrong) anything like what I wrote about. This platform does provide more space for in-game development, learning, and community events. I apologize if this post is too off-topic and the purpose of this platform. I simply don’t have another place to share my opinion. [Next page](https://forum.sandboxdao.com/t/sandbox-must-do-development-outside-the-game/2969.md?page=2)