What about this SIP leads you to believe it’s for individual gain? I just published my 54th episode about an hour ago interviewing one of the delegates where he shared his approach to voting with his 2M VP so that future SIPs have a better chance of receiving his vote.
I’ve interviewed 35 guests, covered 11 SIPs + plenty of news updates. I’m using the $15K to build a better podcast.
Thanks dafincix 
that means a lot to me. I do think $1K an episode is a reasonable cost.
@Biversen I don’t agree at all. The examples cited are not relevant.
You say it’s “example”, so please change my mind with the right example because the streamers cited are either TSB employees or ambassadors or do not make content dedicated to TSB.
In addition, some, not necessarily mentioned here, have already received a lot of support, in terms of budget or visibility for their personal project/image/brand.
Absolutely nothing comparable with the Sanddao which does not sell derivative products and which is totally focused on the TSB dao.
I reiterate my comments regarding the amounts, it could (should) be lower, or offer more episodes but I also maintain my observation, no other streamer has done for the dao what sanddao has done until today.
So one more time, i ready to ear and change my mind, just give me the name of this people.
@iamnegool Concerning the categories, according to my interpretation and understanding I think it can even be attributed to several of them, notably these 4
No worries, @Lanzer. People have different perspectives here, but I can see that most comments are helping the Sandbox community in their own way. Although I’m on the opposing side, I shall respect the outcome.
In my view, this is like a trade. The records suggest that past results weren’t strong enough, so I don’t think this is gonna be a good deal. Maybe I’m wrong, and I’d like you to prove me wrong too.
I respect your critique and I appreciate hearing your thoughts. I’ll respect the outcome too.
Right now it’s 52% Yes to 47% No…a real close one!
Hi @sebga,
I’m curious to know why you think we need a second podcast for the DAO?
Here’s how I’m looking at the proposal:
We’re considering funding a podcast that has already produced 54 episodes, averaging around 50 views per episode—without any clear data on average view duration. Please don’t get me wrong—I understand how challenging it is to attract views, especially with such a niche topic, but this raises questions about whether the current performance justifies $1000 per episode. (it is a lot)
This brings me to my second question—why do we need this podcast to be published on platforms like Pandora, which is only available to users in the US? Moreover, who in the Sandbox community is not engaging with the DAO because they didn’t listen to a podcast about it on Pandora? More importantly, do we even want to attract people who haven’t built, played, or interacted with the Sandbox ecosystem to join the DAO?
Third, if the current podcast isn’t fulfilling the DAO’s promotion needs, shouldn’t we focus on improving it instead of creating a new one? I’m sure the official DAO’s podcast could attract the audience better with the right adjustments.
Finally, I’d like to ask again—what are we looking to achieve? Let’s say we go ahead and accept this proposal. After 15 episodes, how are we supposed to measure its success and determine whether this SIP actually benefited us?
SANDDAO publishes episodes to an RSS account. Pandora and all the others I listed come with the package, but they require manual submission, and I don’t have the time to do that. Regardless of who it’s made available to, Pandora is a household name in the audio industry. Part of the funding will go to a podcast assistant to meet their requirements & publish to those platforms.
Short answer: Yes (in my opinion).
SANDDAO first published 201 days ago in mid Jun 2024. DiTS (Sandbox DAO’s Official Podcast) first published 47 days ago in late Nov 2024.
To keep going.
DiTS and SANDDAO cover VERY different topics, and we cover them very differently. And the best part is, we’re not required to choose one over the other. Is not a competition.
It isn’t clear to me yet what we should be measuring to determine impact. Views are an obvious metric, but I think they’re misleading in our ecosystem. My intuition tells me it’s engagement (retweets, replies, snapshot voting, forum activity). I will be monitoring a wide array of metrics at the end of those 15 episodes to figure what the impacts are. I’m sure the DAO Admin Team will be too.
You are too fixated on examples. There are many streamers who stream on Twitch and Youtube. I think you should pay attention to Any other Streamers instead of focusing on the people in the example.
I think you understood the point I wanted to make.
Or do you want me to write all the streamers one by one?
Why do you think they didn’t do it?
Because there’s not enough audience for DAO and you think the budget should be reduced and the number of episodes should be increased.
So we’re back to the beginning.
Performance - Price.
Performance here is not what one puts in.
but the audience the broadcast reaches, the impact, etc.
Because I, like most of SandFam, had no idea what a DAO was. The only reason I got to into it so fast was because of really good timing of closing my previous podcast and finishing Builders Challenge 1.
I read what the DAO was trying to do, saw it had a lot of business stuff to it (which I love) and I was motivated to start digging…in the sand OHHHHHHHHHHH shoot @theKuntaMC I didn’t even plan that one haha.
DAOs are basically small towns. They’re super boring unless you really want to care. It’s politics of who likes who and arguing over how to spend money and debating how to count votes.
It just so happens I love this stuff. I like being here, figuring this out and making it better.
I think it’s a bit unfair to the streamers, content producers and Sand Holders who have been here since version 6-7, maybe before. because they are also the ones who are interested in Blockchain systems and projects and who vote in DAOs.
The main goal of a streamer is to get people to watch them. I think they didn’t try too hard because they didn’t see enough potential here. Also, one should not hope that Sandbox streamers are making serious contributions to the ecosystem.
not only in the DAO.
“I am making a serious contribution to the Sandbox Ecosystem”. He can say that he wants a 1000 dollars per episode and I will justify this argument.
because with this SIP, the way is now open. Sandbox is an ecosystem and everything related to TSB is part of it.
I appreciate what you are doing, but I agree with @KamiSawZe on this issue. A pool can be created for all these and people can be given shares from this pool. But this should be a separate SIP and all streamers should be consulted.
As I said before, all other streamers have the right to come here and open a SIP and ask for funds. Because they are all people who work hard for their streams and stream continuously.
hi @cryptokoosha , thanks for asking the question.
First of all, the sanddao is the 1st podcast on the dao topic and the official podcast is the 2nd podcast, we could therefore take the question in the other direction “why a second podcast launch by the team himself?”
1- I agree with you, the amount is too high, or the number of episodes not enough.
As for platforms, I have already addressed the subject, and I agree with you, limiting to the most relevant is a better approach. (but i saw Lanzer answered about that)
2 - I don’t imagine that this podcast is made to attract people to the ecosystem but rather to communicate in a different format with people who are interested in DAO. If you ask me how this would be good for TSB, I would tell you that it enriches our ecosystem and makes it more attractive.
3- as I said previously, I am not convinced that the official podcast has the same independence as sanddao.
I hope I’m wrong on this point but I don’t see someone who has a non-disclosure agreement being able to discuss all subjects freely.
I’m repeating myself, but it took almost a year for the official podcast to come out of the ground, whereas with everything we’ve already gone through there was material to communicate well before. From my point of view, although I am happy with this initiative, it could seem like an attempt at compartmentalization.
As for measures of success, idk.
And I still don’t know what to vote for, I want to support but I feel so much reluctance.
@Lanzer Is it possible to produce more episodes, ideally produce throughout 2025 for this amount or it is unthinkable ?
hi @Biversen , give me an example of who might be in a legitimate position to do this?
I don’t know everybody, and I maybe miss some precious account but imo there’s nobody is this position. That’s why I ask for example, I just want you to prove me I’m wrong to think like that.
ok, i understand your point. Do you think that the concept of DAO is accepted, that it is considered at its fair value? Personally I don’t believe it, especially when I hear people talk about @theKuntaMC as if he were a boss of the dao, it proves that the concept is not assimilated. (I’m not criticizing you Kunta, I know that you communicate to help understand the situation, it’s just an observation)
Hi @sebga, thank you for taking the time to reply.
I don’t believe this should be about being the first or second podcast. If that were the case, we’d all still be using Clubhouse rooms instead of Twitter Spaces. I’d even go as far as saying that if the official DAO podcast is only going to be an expense with no tangible benefit, then maybe we should consider shutting it down entirely.
Instead of adding more costs, we could save resources and do something like a 100 SAND reward raffle for those who vote and provide meaningful feedback on specific SIPs, if exposure and engagement is what we’re trying to achieve. Honestly, asking Sebastien to tweet when a SIP goes live would likely have far more impact and outreach.
As for the official DAO podcast’s NDA limitations, I still don’t understand what we’re hoping to uncover with these podcasts. But if there’s something the official podcast can’t discuss, I doubt SandDAO would even know about it—unless we are looking for speculation and darama. Given that the past 54 episodes haven’t sparked many discussions, I’m not convinced that adding 15 more episodes is going to make a difference.
Maybe the first step should be to create a clear structure, schedule, and goals for the DAO’s podcast. Then, we could bring it to the community as a tender and see who can provide this service. At that point, my vote would definitely go to Lanzer since he has the experience, passion, and research behind him.
legitimate for what?
Andy Richy
AU24Kay
VauxMachina
fredandferd
EscapeRoomArtist
HodlHill
TomVoxel
PetsKitchen
iantheitguy
Krafter
PlayGame4Fun
Maybe Even Game Dizzy and Halfdork and many others
Anyone who doesn’t get payroll directly from the Sandbox.
DAO is not a difficult subject. Also The stream does not only have to be DAO. If his stream is related to Sandbox, he can make this application. They promotes and contributes to the ecosystem and tries to grow it. (DAO or not same thing for me)
Because with this SIP, all streamers have this right.
let’s look at it this way. This SIP ended with a yes and @Lanzer got the funding. How will you break the perception when other broadcasters apply and are rejected?
For example;
I contribute more than the DAO channel. I produce everything related to the sandbox. They gave Lanzer 1000 dollars per episode. but They rejected my offer of 750 dollars. some people are in unity and transfer DAO’s money to someone. We are working for this ecosystem for nothing. ETC.
I think the issue needs to be looked at very widely.
Just to understand, what is the fair value of DAO?
DAOs in a summary in the eyes of the people I have spoken to about DAOs: definition: “An autocratic system where everyone votes and the outcome is determined by those with the most voting power”
And they’re right. I think the perception of DAOs themselves, rather than the fair value of DAOs, needs to be broken, which I think is impossible because of the nature of DAOs.
In short, I don’t want to do injustice to all streamers at this point.
I am not the boss at all : )
I report to the SandFam, like the rest of the Admin Team.
The admin team works for the community.
Really, our delegates have more power than me.
Please, let me know how/when my communication sounds like I am asserting any extra authority and I will work to monitor that kind of messaging.
Thank you for your candid note and observation.
If anything comes from my communication with the SandFam, I want it to be empowering for them, not asserting control for myself in any way.
Remaining neutral and objective while relaying information in both directions (between community and admin) is my primary objective.
I apologize to anyone who thinks I speak from a place of perceived authority over this community.
The discussion around this SIP has been the most constructive I’ve seen on any SIP to date. 
It’s great to see respectful debate and people shifting their perspectives in light of new info and ideas. 
This is what DAO-ing is all about! 
We’ve got a great year ahead of us. 
The discussion around this SIP has been the most constructive I’ve seen on any SIP to date.
Agreed.
And I want to make it clear for everyone. SANDDAO and DiTS ARE NOT IN COMPETITION WITH ONE ANOTHER.
Our DAO is big enough for us both.
Good morning everyone,
I don’t participate much in this forum, and my English isn’t great, so I ask you to forgive me if I make any mistakes or if some sentences don’t make much sense.
I would like to propose an alternative SIP on this topic, where any streamer who dedicates time to The Sandbox can receive some contribution. I believe it’s fairer, as many are already suggesting, to create a project that benefits everyone rather than just one person.
Of course, the funding will never cover everyone’s expenses, but at least it will provide some support. My proposal is to create a pool that streamers, creators of video guides, and similar contributors can join.
A quarterly ranking of the top 10 could then be drawn up after a review process based on views, unique users, watch time, and content quality (in my opinion, prioritizing those who create educational content, rather than those, like me, who stream while playing The Sandbox without discussing projects or news). This ranking would function similarly to the current content creator awards.
I hope you like this proposal. It’s not the one originally suggested in this SIP, but I believe it’s a fairer middle ground.
Of course, further details need to be worked out: who will handle the review of registrations, how much funding should go into the pool, the exact criteria for the ranking, and so on.
Good point, I like the idea.
A “Builder’s Challenge” for streamers & video creators sounds great. It doesn’t necessarily need to follow the same format but could serve as a way to encourage more people to broadcast Sandbox content and drive more traffic. I hope this can be discussed further.
@theKuntaMC
I think there is a translation problem, I did not say that you position yourself as a boss of the DAO, I said that some see you as such, just because you are a community manager of the DAO and that they assimilate this position to a form of hierarchy.
I’m not criticizing you at all Kunta and I know how it feels. I’m sorry if that wasn’t clear in my message.
