@Lanzer @Kaiten @DAO 
Thank you so much for the honor of nominating me. I truly appreciate it fam. Unfortunately I will have to decline. I canāt dedicate the time needed for the role and serve the community to its full capacity with my other commitments.
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Perhaps we put āAbstainā and āNone of these candidatesā
To me, abstain says āIām not sure I want the candidate but I want my vote recordedā and the other says āI donāt want any of these candidates to be electedā
Theyāre close, but the message it sends is different
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Oh darn! I completely understand Dr M 
Weāre back down to one candidate now.
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Per what @G_is_us and I discussed on Mocaverse Hall,
Post your nomination here below
It can be simple as āI submit my nomination for the Community Council! I will follow the CCās Code of Conduct. My name is G and hereās a summary about me: __________ā
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Krafter received 3 nominations
Per the āNomination of Anotherā rules, now that 3 community members nominated him he becomes an official candidates that Kunta and I will then contact to confirm his desire to be a candidate. If he declines, he is no longer an official candidate, if he confirms, he remains a candidate.
Per the āEligibility Checkā and āEligibility Grace Periodā rules, Ambassadors & TSB staff & SC & AB & Delegates may be a candidate if they commit to resigning from their role no later than 30 days after winning an election.
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Very exciting!
Weāre waiting on @Krafter and @G_is_us to declare their candidacies!
Today, at 3pm PST, we are hosting an X Spaces to dive deeper into this role. Hopefully, theyāll both be there to ask questions.
The official self-nomination must be made here on the Forums.
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Per what was discussed on this SIPās X Space, @wahpaks was nominated.
If you so choose, please confirm yourself as a candidate here below
It can be as simple as āI submit my nomination for the Community Council! My name is Wahpaks and hereās a summary about me: __________ā
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UPDATES on this SIP:
If we do not have 3 candidates by Monday, the NOMINATION PERIOD will be extended by 2 weeks, from Feb 19 to March 5
How do people feel about our adding a COMPENSATION of 500 SAND/month to this SIP?
This is a product of speaking with numerous qualified individuals (who decided NOT to nominate themselves) who told us there should be a remuneration of some kind. We previously discussed it here as well, where it was split, but leaning in favor of no compensation.
We came to the number of 500 by asking TSB for the average of what TSB Ambassadors were receiving. ā Now, the community can debate that number here over the next few days. Higher? Lower?
On Monday, we plan to add compensation to this SIP (unless it is strongly rejected here). 
The question is: how much?
The argument for more SAND:
- we want to take care of the people who are doing the work & we want to attract and retain the most qualified SandFam for the job
The argument for less or no SAND:
- we donāt want people taking these seats just to claim SAND and do as little as possible (especially since the jobsā duties have been a little bit ambiguous on purpose so the first cohort of CC can help to shape/define the roles organically)
@rocksymiguel @hishmad @KCL @sebga @moefat @meowl @mo_ezz14 @cryptodiplo @Biversen @Airvey @Oldwon @Lanzer @AndyRichy @G_is_us @Krafter @wahpaks and you all might want to tag others who have expressed interest in this SIPā¦ Forgive me for likely forgetting someā¦ Letās all try to nominate the people who we know would do an excellent job.
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Observing the lack of candidate and engagement on the topic it make me reflect that:
- there is not such as strong need for this community council and the people trust Kunta and admin team to do the best for TSB development and the SandFam (I am from those)
- the community does not want this format of representativeness.
In both case this SIP should not be put to vote.
Adding directly some compensation small or medium to it would only bring greedy folks that will not deliver anything.
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500 sand/mth is a fair amount.
I agree with what @KCL mentioned in regards to a reflection to the poor uptake.
It seems that we were expecting more than 5 applicants and that we were going to choose 5 out of everyone, but looking at the uptake, perhaps an āAmbassadorās Programā like model for the DAO makes more sense.
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We can track this sentiment over the week ahead. If this is the case, we can let this rest for a few months and then revisit the idea.
Also, that would be one of the voting options. But your point is clear about the low candidate number making it feel untimely.
Thatās a second for postponing this SIP until weāve got greater participation.
Youāve added the suggestion of a āDAO ambassador programā ā My thoughts on that are that I think TSB Ambassadors are supposed to be working with the DAO already; at least, that is what the SIP said ā Also, that would probably be a new SIP.
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I feel like our DAO doesnāt know what itās missing out on by not having a fully engaged SC & AB. Iām fully supportive of the DAO Admin team. Neither their role nor the Ambassadors fulfill the leadership role of the SC & ABā¦and I think itās unfair to expect that they do.
I see this as a āIf you fail to plan, you plan to failā situation. Right now, weāre dispersed. Our momentum is blunted. We could be organized far, far better than we are.
I feel very strongly about not waiting 10 months for reelections before we do something about the obvious benefits in filling that leadership void.
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Well, looking at how TSB Ambassadorās Program is run (as of now), it seems like putting it up for a vote via an SIP was merely a formality. I want to be optimistic, but iād rather be realistic. TSB Ambassadorās Program was meant for TSB company to run, we just fund it, so its likely that we wonāt have much of a say in how matters of the DAO can run via the ambassadors.
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I agree. Iām not sure I support the next Ambassador SIP at this moment. Need some clarity on its implementation.
I donāt expect the SC or AB adjust their current level of participation. All we have left is installing people of our ownā¦ Either through CC SIP or an out-of-cycle SC/AB election.
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I donāt find it disturbing whether or not there are ambassadors on the community council.
I am divided on the immediate need for the implementation of the community council. It is true that @theKuntaMC and the team partly play this role.
Indeed this topic doesnāt seem super active, Iām going to try to survey the French community.
For now here are few names I am proposing: @Krafter (General) ; @KamiSawZe (GClient) ; Cyberdragon (GM) ; @Lanzer (DAO) ; @rocksymiguel (VEdit)
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I love the idea of a community council. I also feel the feedback posted here are the edits needed and will be crucial in making sure the Community Council is effective in its mission, as well as making the members duties reasonable for the time invested. 
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UPDATE 
This SIP has been reverted to 
SIP: Ideas where it will remain for the foreseeable months ahead as we focus on bolstering overall participation in the DAO. When/if the community sees the need to advance this idea at a point when there is more interest in filling roles like these, we can modify this SIP to meet the communityās needs at that time.
QUESTIONS? Ideas? 
The conversation can continue here, but this will not be advanced to vote at this time.
Tagging for visibility:
@DAO @rocksymiguel @hishmad @KCL @sebga @moefat @meowl @mo_ezz14 @cryptodiplo @Biversen @Airvey @Oldwon @Cyril @Lanzer @AndyRichy @Krafter @G_is_us Tag others who may want to see this.
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Iām developing a metaphor using the context of a golf club.
Associations like golf clubs often exhibit greater longevity compared to other types of organizations due to a combination of social, economic, cultural, and structural factors. Hereās a breakdown of why this tends to be the case:
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Strong Sense of Community and Tradition
Golf clubs frequently foster a deep sense of belonging and identity among members, rooted in shared rituals, history, and exclusivity. This creates emotional attachment, encouraging members to maintain and pass down the association across generations. Unlike more transient or purpose-driven groups (e.g., advocacy organizations tied to a specific cause), golf clubs often prioritize continuity and legacy, which sustains their existence over time. -
Economic Stability and Resources
Golf clubs typically rely on membership fees, property ownership (e.g., courses), and sometimes endowments, providing a steady revenue stream. This financial foundation allows them to weather economic fluctuations better than associations dependent on donations, grants, or short-term funding. The high cost of entry (dues, equipment, and access) also attracts committed members with disposable income, ensuring a stable base of support. -
Recreational and Social Appeal
Golf is a leisure activity that doubles as a networking opportunity, appealing to a wide demographicāparticularly professionals, business leaders, and retirees. This blend of recreation and social capital keeps members engaged long-term, unlike associations focused solely on ideology or temporary goals that may dissolve once their purpose is fulfilled or interest wanes. -
Physical Infrastructure
Golf clubs are often anchored by tangible assets like clubhouses and courses, which require ongoing maintenance and investment. This physical presence creates a sense of permanence and responsibility, discouraging dissolution. In contrast, associations without fixed assets (e.g., online communities or temporary coalitions) can fade more easily when leadership or enthusiasm declines. -
Adaptability Within a Niche
While golf itself is a niche interest, successful clubs adapt to changing timesāadding amenities (e.g., dining, fitness facilities), hosting events, or relaxing dress codesāwithout abandoning their core identity. This balance of tradition and evolution helps them outlast associations that either resist change or lack a clear, enduring focus.
Data on private club longevity is scarce, but anecdotal evidence from historic clubs (e.g., St. Andrews in Scotland, founded in 1754) highlights how these factors can sustain associations for centuries.
In short, golf clubs endure because they combine financial resilience, cultural cachet, and a self-sustaining social ecosystemāqualities that many other associations struggle to replicate.
Appreciate this and think its a great start, 100% there has to be caution with offering Sand so the amount should be within reason. I donāt see any harm in 500 sand and would be far more likely to put myself forward for the position
I understand the reason why, but Iām bummed. I think CC is a step in the right direction. If we donāt do CC, House of Sand is the next best option.
Doing nothing until SC reelections is the worst way to go in my view.